What is the current mindset and how investors think about or frankly don't think about the intersection of gender and climate? And also, what got you interested in this topic in the first place?

Yeah, so most investors still treat gender really as a social add-on and climate as a technical or environmental problem.

But the reality is climate is a capital allocation problem and gender tells you where capital actually lands.

And so in the US, especially, climate finance has become very tech-centric.

So think hardware, scale, IP.

It's very male-dominated in terms of the networks and also very much growth at all costs, which disadvantages women founders and fund managers structurally.

There's also this kind of lingering myth that if it's climate, it's automatically good for people.

are there any sort of like a case study, an example that you can point to where that this has moved from ideation into this is how we're looking at, this is how we're viewing our investments? Who's leading the way?