Um, so just like, what was your experience like then after day one, you know, with that being such a shit show?

I would say day one, I definitely felt antsy to, like, get out of the city.

And not that it was not fun, but it's just not my style of, like, I don't go to cities, you know what I mean? And then I started to feel a lot more comfortable once we got into the forest and on the mountains and stuff.

I would say, like, kind of, like, getting comfortable with the group, too.

Like, I knew you guys, like... for a day.

And I, and I, and I know Mike.

And so that, um, honestly, like big shout out to Mike, like him being there, I think helped a ton with like me, like feeling like I was like, you know, in the right spots.

How did you get into wanting to do ultras? How kind of did that progress to where you are now from where you started and started riding bikes competitively in general?