How do spouses begin to have this conversation with each other? Do you have any recommendations?

Yeah, I mean, there's overarching...

And what I teach in my book is...

I want both the spouses to see money as a good.

They spend a lot of time, probably both of them, trying to get it.

Spending a lot of time away from each other, away from the kids, all these calories, energy, effort, education, network, all of it, all culminating in them earning money.

So they give a lot of their life to get this resource.

What are some of the things that parents can start doing from scratch to try to track what's happening, where the money goes, giving each dollar kind of a purpose instead of simply just trying to budget everything and keep things tight like our grandparents did?