So talk me through about when you get the telephone call or how does the selection happen? Tell me about how the selection happens.

Um...

Yeah, so being part of the full-time programme, we have some days where we'll have selection if we've got up-and-coming tours.

So it happened in, I think, August, maybe, or it might have just been a bit before.

We had a few trials, kind of match play internally, where there'll be selectors kind of watching.

And actually, I wasn't successful in terms of actually getting on the tour originally, which I was really gutted about, but it was my first time back in the programme.

I just knew that I needed to just keep working on me and kind of just give it a bit of time.

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