Mm.

And walked out of it absolutely not.

So again, you know, I chose to go with Jackie, and we went down the same path.

We had all the same, the same chats.

And yeah, I mean, I was excited.

I'd seen the baby and this particular scan.

So I must've been going in for, it must've been 12 weeks because I'd had sent everything off for the Harmony test.

You were positive on the GBS swab?

minute.

And I was actually thrust back into it rather forcefully.

So there was no agency because I ended up through a myriad of circumstances being homeless for 11 months.

And it was a cowboying job that got me out of that situation.

And I ended up cowboying for a cow calf operation for two and a half years.

And for various amounts of reasons, that particular operation ended up not being a good fit for me.

So kind of similar thing happened where I was not totally happy with the operation I was working at.

And you,

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I got started largely because my grandfather.

My grandfather was a working ranch cowboy, working ranch manager.

And he was really into the California style of horsemanship that he picked up from my great grandfather.

And so...

I'll be honest, there was a little bit of hesitation on his side, I think largely because I'm a girl.

a little bit.

What's the connection between women's ability to live independently and their relational health? In my mind, kind of in line with this helping women develop that sense of competence and capability, when you have that sense of competence and capability and you know that you can handle things on your own, it actually allows you to love your partner more openly and more freely in a more healthy way because there isn't that dependence there.

It's an interdependence where you both come together and you both know I've got my stuff handled.

They've got their stuff handled.

Now we can come back together and build something instead of, like I said, creating a dynamic that relies on that dependence for one party.

And yeah, to me, that just opens up the door for healthier relationships as well.