How, how was the kind of like lead up experience for you and how was it like holding, what was like more conscious in your brain, holding all of the details that kind of how to get done or also feeling like there's these like bigger kind of shifts and bigger themes and, um, other things that maybe were coming up at the same time, like what felt present to you?

Yeah, it was a really interesting process because, you know, you think everything happens like the week of the wedding or the day of the wedding.

But as soon as we started inviting people, I started having my own sort of like emotional experience with the process of imagining... all these different people coming together in the same space.

And my parents were coming together for the first time since I had graduated college.

And there were, there were just a lot of, it was much more emotional.

I think several months out, like I want to say in like February, because we got married in June.

And so there were just a lot of moments where I was like imagining what the week was going to go like, what the day was going to go like, the weekend was going to go like.

Cause I know you're very intentional with that.

Mm-hmm.

But time is a variable in the Placidus system, where they call it a time-based system.

So we're looking at the eastern horizon line.

What's the rising sign? Cool.

Jess is, uh, an 11-degree Virgo rising, and in that specific degree kicks off the first house.

And because I was born in California, um, we're essentially, like there's all these kind of timing kind of math that adds up from there.

But Placidus is also taking into account the midheaven, which is the highest point in the sky at the time of birth, where the planets, like, would be culminating.

What do you think about that?

I guess like, I would just love to hear your experience with either getting out of the advice loop or business coaching support world.

Yeah.

I, I love this question.

And I think that, and I love that you're in a similar season like that to me.

And I know that other people, at least in my world and I'm sure our worlds are as well, of just realizing that, you know, maybe I've learned from other people and other frameworks like enough, like I think that I, it's time to, instead of constantly trying to, you know, it, but if I just go do this, this course over here, then all this other stuff I've learned is going to like click into place.

It's like, well, at some point there, there needs to be like, I think for me, it felt like at some point there needed to just be a little bit of space and the space opened up pretty naturally.

Like just, it, the support I was receiving from one of my coaches who's helped me so much was just ending.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.