So, so Jerzy, were you trying to then replicate what you did with physical strength and micro progressions with then mental aptitude as well?

I, you know, I, I don't know, but, uh, I was following the growth, you know.

I was following, uh, something that is more and better.

And you see, uh, when I ask him to do in the other place, I was asking him to do the, uh, six repetitions or seven repetitions of squats or, or presses.

And I, I, I get the sense that he was missing the numbers, so he was doing less numbers or more.

I started counting, and every time was a different number.

So, um, so I said, "Tajen, uh, you are not doing the, uh, the repetitions that I ask you.

H- what's, what's the best tips you could give for people to live their best life?

researcher,

who said that the brain actually shrinks with age and becomes less active.

And he said, it's not only that, our lungs shrink, our heart shrinks, we shrink.

And he called it synovial atrophy.

at that time.

And of course, people didn't like the idea of C-knife and then changed to sarcopenia later on.

But when I see my clients, when I watch my clients from three-year-old to 93-year-old, right, and spectrum, all of them, and some of them, they have some problems and not problems and so on.

It's

you became clear on who you were, what you were, and the message that you then share with everybody that we will dive into.

Well, you said 30 minutes to me at the beginning.

You didn't say 30 hours.

Well, you know, quick thing.

I was a fireman in Poland before that.

I was an alcoholic.

I was lucky to come out of it.

Uh, How do we stay motivated to a big goal we've set for ourselves that takes so long to achieve slowly?

What is some of your talk with your clients around resilience?

Well, this is the struggle between the negative and the positive, which I put in the dialogues and I wrote three books about master and fatalist.

And that inner struggle, when we are exposed to a situation, let's say there is a cheesecake and you want to eat it, but you know that you're not supposed to.

So there's an inner struggle inside a person's mind that the negative will make the case that Oh, life is short, you know, go for it, right? Why not? And then the positive will say, yeah, yeah, but we want to be healthy.

We don't want to get sick and we don't want to gain weight.

Oh, come on, you know, the fatalists will say, it's not so, we don't even know, you know, it's not true.

And so there is a constant dialogue in us.

What's some of your experience with that? Yeah,

Walk us through more of this mindset of micro changes, micro progressions, and how can you help someone get over the mindset of, On paper, maybe I'm succeeding or I'm moving closer to my goal, but it just feels like I'm just going so slow.

Well, it's appreciation.

So when we have micro progression, we have this small improvements and a person that actually has the ownership of that.

So you are the one that you are creating.

You're not the one that is trained by somebody.

So you are the owner of progress.

If you are the owner of progress and you are behind that what you need to achieve, the little things that you achieve, you will find the appreciation of it and happiness in it.

particular style or format or flow? No, it's just three verse poems.

Wow.

Or millionaires.

So, uh, education.

That's why in the Soviet blocks, there were so many scientists, but scientists not with technology alignment, but with mathematics.

Because mathematics you can study and you don't have to have technology.

And technology was impossible, but technology was not there.

So it was really hard for people to study such a thing.

And if you were to step me through that, if I was to spend a day in the program or a month or whatever, what are the things you would start me with? What, what would be the first few habits and, and steps that you would take me through?

I think that can resonate with a lot of people for different reasons, but I was hoping you could explain it in your own words.

You know, every time when I talk about this, every time I give a different explanation.

So I guess we evolve and understand it from a different perspective.

Today, I'd like to say that how I understand it from the perspective of difference between medicine and psychology.

When we actually want to do something and we want to do something but it will take two years or five years.

So that is delayed gratification.

As soon as the delayed gratification happens, the hard choices appear because it's really hard to wait for the reward a year or two or five.

But that seems like that would just add a lot of stress to a young person's

Like most people on 20 cups of coffee a day could not do five to six hours of math a day.

I asked him about the counting.

First was the counting, that he couldn't count to 20.

So I said, "Okay, let's count to 15.

Can you count to 15?" So we counted to 15.

When he got to 15, I said, "You go home, and you start learning to count to 20." So he came back, and I tested him.

"Did you count to 20?" "Yeah." "So okay, count." So he counted.

[laughs] Yeah.

When did you, um, when did you get interested in, you know, physical fitness and the body and all that type of stuff that led you to creating the happy body?

I was an Olympic weightlifter in Poland and learned everything about weightlifting.

And coaches, I had a group of coaches, amazing.

And Poland was really great in weightlifting always.

And when I immigrated and eventually ended up in Burbank coaching at PowerSource, I adapted weightlifting principles, making people flexible, strong, fast, good posture, lean, certain body weight.

And these principles I follow intuitively with everyone.

despite what they wanted.

Um, talk to me about how poetry plays a part in, in your work.

Tell us a little about your personal lives, more about your work and why you do what you do.

All right, so we talk about that we have 20 minutes, not two hours.

All right, I was a fireman in Poland, quick, right? When I was 19, I really appreciate to be a fireman.

I really like the feeling of helping people and rescuing people.

I really like that.

And I would like so much that I went to the Fire Protection Academy, engineering in Warsaw, and studied there for four years.

And in 1981, Solidarity was really at its peak and the government tried to use the fire department against demonstrations.

We're giving ourselves that great reputation.