
Jerry Hadden
Journalist and author; Europe correspondent for The World (GBH/PRX) based in Barcelona, formerly NPR's Latin America correspondent and author of the memoir "Never the Hope Itself."
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Aug 7, 2026
Spain After the World Cup
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18:36Michael DivertHOST
How has the situation in Catalonia specifically changed since then? I mean, the governing party in the Catalonian parliament, if I'm not mistaken now, is the Catalonia branch of the Socialist Party as opposed to the Catalan independence movement.

Jerry HaddenGUEST
I mean, if you look at the polls, I think we're at about somewhere in the high 30s or low 40s in terms of support for Catalan independence, which is, it's been much higher, let's say.

Jerry HaddenGUEST
At the time of the process, as it was called, the process, which was a reference to the movement for independence, it was solidly above 50%.
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22:43Michael DivertHOST
As that somewhat dissipates and we're looking at these other issues that are coming up, such as the fires, such as the situation in Ceuta, what would you say is the kind of general mood of the country as we enter in the autumn of 2026?