But even working full time, like, you run a legitimate business now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your...

Everything you just said was, was spot on.

I was, I was struggling, trying to...

I still felt really new, really green, trying to figure out how to do-- receive the call, how to interview them to make sure that I'm not wasting my time and I'm not wasting their time.

Like, what was the timeframe before you kinda cut them loose on their own on certain projects?