There are administrators and local leaders that can all have an awareness that can be really influential as long as we let them know and make them know what value the program is bringing to the community.

Okay.

Go ahead, Jeremy.

James brought in some good sound bites.

One thing that I shared with all of our arts teachers in Wake County last week when we had our district-wide meeting, we talked about advocacy and I shared with him that effective advocacy is rarely reactionary.

I don't know where I got that.

But yes, we do need to fight in the moment to preserve programs when decisions are being made that would cut a program.

I mean, there may be literally, but we've got to frame our conversation with students that we're ready for them next year and the year after that and the year after that and get them excited about that enrollment because the numbers are really, really important.