Mm-hmm.

Yes.

With below market, uh, interest, that's, uh, 10% interest for the growth stage businesses.

For idea stage businesses, no, no much interest for the first cycle, but once the business starts growing, we then now, uh, kick in with interest.

And that interest is, uh, supposed to, you know, provide for other businesses that are coming up.

Mm-hmm.

So when we say, um, uh, we are together in that context, it's also bringing in, as I said, p- private sector partners, helping them understand that, um, these contexts are not entirely removed from, you know, they do not l- live in a bubble.