
Jeremy Christiansen
Associate Professor of Law at Regent University School of Law, former Gibson Dunn & Crutcher partner and co-managing editor of The New Digest.
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Oct 2, 2026
Episode 48: Bostock and Barbara (feat. Jeremy Christiansen)
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Timon ClineHOST
If you could, though, briefly remind people of what was going on there a couple months ago now, and that will set up our discussion.

Jeremy ChristiansenGUEST
And I do want to sort of raise them both because it gets interesting once you start talking about some of the opinions that I think we'll discuss later on.

Jeremy ChristiansenGUEST
But You know, the big ticket question, of course, is under the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause, which states that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Jeremy ChristiansenGUEST
And the sort of big ticket question is, at a high level, right, whether those people who are born in the United States to parents who are not citizens but who are also here illegally are birthright citizens under this provision.

Jeremy ChristiansenGUEST
That is, whether they automatically, just by virtue of their birth, Inside the United States are citizens of the United States entitled to all of the wonderful privileges that come with being a U.S. citizen.
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Timon ClineHOST
You could have you have had civilizations that commit atrocities against the unborn and against infants and there's still some kind of coherence and cohesion to them because the citizenship question is more defined and solidified, whereas in this case it's hard to understand how you How you can brush this one off not that everyone was but the to be optimistic about this one's like well We've we've come to a very strange place on how we determine who's in and who's out in the polity