similar.

Similar, but for little kids.

I wanted to just do primary school.

And then I finished year 12 and thought, I need a break from studying.

I can't do that.

I'll take a break.

What will I do? And my parents were getting a divorce at the time.

And knowing that you're an expert and you've got all these things built up in your Rolodex.

that that's the migration the

migration yes so july august uh up in cogatende when the the wildebeest and zebras are crossing So I actually, with the group last year, we went up there to see that, and that just blew my mind.

What area were you in? Just Cogatende.

So you fly into Cogatende, and it's sort of that northern area, and then you go out and you wait.

And my group and I, we were very fortunate because people will go out there, and it can be their whole trip, and they will sit there and sit there, and they miss.

Nothing happens.

Within 10 minutes of us being there, they crossed.

And, like, what did you take away when you left Africa or when you leave Africa?