Mm.

And if you think of our world at the moment, it's like we're all going through this together, and some of this karmic stuff is group karmic stuff.

It's, it's, it's, um-It's world stuff Interesting, yeah ... it's humanity stuff Mm.

It comes down to a very physical stuff as well.

For us at the moment, because of the wars and because we are so empathetic, it stirs up some of the unresolved past lifetimes in war.

And I think for us as Irish people, and for anyone else, when our countries have been, you know, invaded, when there has been war, when there's been fear, when there's been all this stuff, um, to, for safety mechanisms, we learn to block things out and we learn to get on.

And I think our past generations learned not to emotionally feel.

Very good.

And Ireland, you suspect, Jen, are just gonna get better and better, you hope anyway, but by evidence that seems to be happening.

Yeah.

Like the- the- the team is playing like more cohesive.

They're ...

Well, they're professionals now.

Like, yeah, and- and so they should be, um, moving in the right direction, and it's also like the support that they're given as well.

Like if you invest in something well, not just from top-down, but bottom-up, like good things will come.

Grand mix.

12 or 13, where do you see her, and do you like her as sort of a footballer? And what do you make of her as a player in general?

Um, with, uh, Eve, to be honest, I see her like there's many different places to play in that center role.

You can have someone that is very phys- physical, direct, um, carrier, which would be more like Gilliefvy's kind of style of play.

And when you look at Higgins, it's definitely like a more of a dual playmaker side of things.

So like, um, tends to like, is quite nice in terms of like drift of defense, um, has w- a really nice pass, which you would've seen from like years with the sevens team.

Do I see her as a 12, a out and out 12? I probably see her more as a 10, to be honest.

I think she, um, she has a really good ability to read the game and kind of unlock kind of gaps in there.

If they didn't close the gap in results wise last week or two weeks ago, but then this needs to be another really good day out in Belfast.

No better opportunity to do it, but it'll come down to the stats at half ten Saturday night, uh, of saying, "Well, what's the outcome and have we done the job?"

Yeah, like, I think it's kind of, bar a few players with like, you know, a smaller number of caps, this is now a squad that's experienced.

You've got an experienced bench and you've got girls that have played in front of big crowds, not just in the UK but in, in France as well.

So it's, it's nothing new.

They're kind of used to it.

You can kind of get out and play the game.

It's pretty much the same size pitch as anyone else.

What will give Ireland the hope that they'll stick with them and actually, you know what? They might get a bit shaky if Ireland actually go ahead in the game, 'cause it hasn't really happened for France where they've been trailing at all.