Together, they line up a job and an apartment on the outside, and then one day Jennie just drives off to start a new life with her kids.

Maybe a year later, then [laughs] I fucking realized, like, it clicked in my brain, like, I was brainwashed my entire life, and I started just learning so much about myself and about The Order and about this world and, like, why we're here and all the, like, the connection to Earth, like, everything.

So in my head, [laughs] like, I just created something that I am at peace with believing.

I think that we are just here to experience, and when we die, then we'll go on to another experience.

Like karma, if you do bad things to people in this lifetime, like, you're gonna pay for it.

So the boys, Jacob Kingston's grandsons, still spend a lot of time living in The Order.

I'm the only one in their life that doesn't believe what they believe in.

They are already brainwashed already, and they're seven.