
Jenny Gillett
Senior Expert in Education Innovation at the International Baccalaureate Organisation, based in The Hague, specializing in curriculum development and assessment design.
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Jun 14, 2026
181 - The Future of the IB Diploma
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John MiktonHOST
So what are some things that you're, you're saying, "Oh, we need to push back"? I'm just curious, what are some of the creative tensions?

Jenny GillettGUEST
So I think some of the positives we're really hearing from the students who've been doing it is exactly the kind of things that you were just highlighting.

Jenny GillettGUEST
So that real focus on kind of agency and ownership and choice and feeling that they can really focus in on areas that interest them, and then put it into action in the, in, in the world, you know? I think they, that real world applicability has just come through really strongly.

Jenny GillettGUEST
And also the kind of skills and competencies that they're developing through this course, because, y- you know, they're, they're developing their thinking skills, their communication skills, their, their collaboration skills.

Jenny GillettGUEST
They're there in a lot of IB courses, but the difference with this one is, like, they're sort of baked in kind of [laughs] up front and center to this kind of course, which is great.
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John MiktonHOST
What are you hearing from the schools about what feels possible and what feels maybe more difficult on kind of just the set up, the anticipation, and also getting people to back this as something that's viable?