When did those two meet and what did it kind of change about what you thought you were selling as you moved into the food industry?

It's an interesting question.

I love that because, gosh, it's a hard one to think about the exact moment in time the lightning struck.

But I'd say it's really a three-part answer, especially as it leads to what I do today and my passion for the leadership and organization development of brands.

Number one, like you said, the metamorphosis, the hospitality piece of that, to know that we could actually serve something that's so monumental of a need, I mean, three to four times a day, you know, we have to feed our gut.

And then seeing how much it meant to people, as you referred to, that it was bathing them, not only in nutritional need, but the soul I think that was obviously what hooked me first, because I love the power that we hold in our hands in the industry, not just in hospitality, but food industry in general, to be there for people and their great need for that.

But then secondarily, I was very blessed early on to work with the largest Hardee's franchisee as well.

And so