But what was your, what was your inspiration for that one?

Yeah.

Well, I went through a mentally abusive relationship.

It's a long, long story, but a lot of times I'll share about it at our concerts as well.

But I married someone who was very controlling, mentally abusive, and I wanted to start a band for a long time.

I felt like this was a calling on my life to use music, you know, and for God to use music.

us to share his love through music.

So what's the story behind Eternal?

yeah like a lot of people you hear a lot of people like we gave up this that and the other but right off was this that and the other

right yeah i know that's a great great question i mean obviously they was in the part independent artists you have full copyright and everything so that's something they own the songs and obviously I get publishing rights and that sort of thing, but basically they own the song.

So you're giving up that, but then they're also giving you the finances to fund the music video, to fund a whole album.

to market you and share you on their social media and promote you and that sort of thing.

And for me, it was maybe some people might be like, well, you know what? I can just do that all myself.

And that's fine if you can, if you have the finances.

But I was in a situation at that point where I was thinking I might have to end the band because There were so many financial tragedies that happened right before we got signed.

Talk to me about how do those relationships happen and, and the importance of those relationships? Yeah.