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... by many, in the United States at least, and that is, you know, I think part of the, part of the fundamental problem because when you look at something in a very narrow way, "Here's a problem, how do we fix it?" without looking at the system or the structures or the ecological limits to the systems, right? And that's, that's a fundamental, um, constraint of mainstream neoliberal economics where the growth, as you mentioned, is assumed to be, you know, forever and without recognition of the constrained, limited resources on the planet and, and, and the impossibility of continued growth.

So, so this is where, um, you know, colleagues in ecological economics have called it, like, a form of deception, right? Teaching students that we can continue with this simplistic, uh, narrow growth, market-based solutions-oriented approach and, and, and, and get at the root of any of the crises, right? Not just the climate crises, right? The housing crisis or, or food insecurity or growing economic inequities and, you know, there is no simple solution for any of the crises that we're facing.

And, and, uh, yeah, the, the former president of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins, has even written about or said that it's, you know, a deprivation of basic student rights by teaching this very narrow, blinkered, and distorted education when we teach students, like, mainstream economics only.

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in the systems that we wanna change.

So there are times where we can say, "No, I'm not gonna do that," even though that's what's ex- you know, somebody wants me to do, and I'm in the system.