To being where you are now, to discovering that, oh, you don't have to do it the way everybody else does.

Yeah, it really started when I, I think, when I had my first entrepreneurial endeavor, which was back in 2010.

I had taken some of my time off from teaching so that I could have my now almost 18-year-old kid.

And that was in 2008.

And And I realized very quickly that I was like, okay, I enjoy being a mom, but I also want to contribute to the family financially, right? Because my husband at the time was very concerned with finances, and even though he was doing very well, and we didn't anticipate there anything happening because of that whole real estate bubble thing that popped and caused all kinds of worldwide chaos in the financial world.

we figured maybe it was time for me to go back to teaching.

And I could not get a job to save my life in 2010.

Let your

What were we talking about? What was the moment where you realized your message was was bigger? Right.

Yeah.

I wish it would have started in elementary school when I was getting all of those notes on my report card to my parents saying Jenny's a great student.

She's you know, she's got a lot of friends, blah, blah, blah.

But Jenny talks too much.

I wish somebody had told me back then that my voice was going to be that which actually would help more people.

But it didn't happen until I was in 2017, 2019 when I first got introduced to podcasting.

How about you, Jenny? What would you say was that lever? Was it was it hosting your own podcast being guests on podcasts? Was it something different?

But that

speaks to the flexibility, right? You've got to be flexible.

And the number of people who like get so attached to.

to expecting something to be one way and so when it doesn't happen that way and not to say that it doesn't that I can't be like that at times but when you grow up knowing that in two years a year six months 30 days whatever you are going to be in a totally different place in the world and you're the only people you're going to know are your mom your dad and your siblings and And that's it.

And so being able to pivot and do that has led me to where I am today.

So in my intro, you hear, you know, it talks about my history as a science teacher and then direct sales leader and now a coach that those flexible points or the changes came because of flexibility.

I realized I didn't want to teach and be a mom at the same time.

Let's just take it out a little bit.