Mm-hmm.

He gave me the confidence I have today.

He passed away, then my dad got really sick again.

But in the meantime, my dad started coming back into the company, trying to help the company.

We got sued from Mudd, the new owner of Mudd, who owned Ed Hardy, True Religion, Peanuts, Joe Boxer.

It was Iconix Brand Group.

Not a good person, because there was a key man clause about Bobby working every day within the company.

Mm.

That's awesome.

Just for you guys, FDRA, best podcast in the shoe industry.

[laughs] So I guess I'll start with this because I've been in the shoe industry much longer than Mike.

My parents actually started off at the swap meets in downtown LA in Los Angeles around the area when I was four years old.

So I remember following them along 'cause they couldn't afford a babysitter, and I would just sit in the back of the trucks and with a ice cooler.

Very unsafe now, but I would sit on some of the boxes as we were going from swap meet to swap meet.

So that's how I started.

So if you wanna touch on that, I'd love to hear.