Mm-hmm.

What, what, what is most important to me? If we look at how women have been valued historically in this world, women were historically valued for our ability to be caregivers, our ability to be nurturing, our ability to be selfless.

You know, we were valued on our ability to be physically attractive, sexually attractive.

This is when, where women's worth historically was entrenched in.

And then because of our feminist revolution, right, which is awesome, uh, we're now kind of valuing ourselves based on all the things that men were historically valued on, which was our ability to be high achieving, to provide, to be successful.

And now we kind of evaluate ourselves through the lens of all of these things, and if you look at that, like, God, that feels like a lot of expectations.

And so now our worth is entrenched in how well we think we're doing in all of those areas, and I think that just sets us up to feel like we're never enough.

So can you talk a little bit about that as well?

So how do you work with women to kind of address those belief systems?

Yeah, well, that's a lot to extrapolate.

Our worth from our productivity and our doing.

And for sure, for a really long time in my life, probably up until I became a mother, my worth was my productivity.

My worth was my business card.

I mean, even after I left one of my big kind of first jobs, I was like, who am I? I thought I was this person, my business card, and who am I now? And so I think...

Motherhood brings in a big identity shift around that, kind of the reconciliation of, yeah, like, who am I beyond my doing? What is most important to me? I think that if we look at how women have been valued historically in this world, women were historically valued for our ability to be caregivers, our ability to be nurturing, our ability to be selfless.

So can you talk a little bit about that as well?