
Jen Kolde
Principal Intelligence Analyst at The Vertex Project, previously Lead Technical Director for FireEye Threat Intelligence and computer scientist with the FBI.
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Aug 11, 2026
Episode 8: What Makes Intelligence Trustworthy?
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Jen KoldeGUEST
Now, I'm wondering if in some ways the whole naming convention debate is almost a false sense of security, right? Like I'm a SOC analyst.

Jen KoldeGUEST
If I can just put a name on this thing so that I can tell, you know, my boss what it is or who it is, then that's fine.

Jen KoldeGUEST
So if I can just memorize all the names and cross-reference all the names, then I'm doing my job.

Jen KoldeGUEST
And I think, sadly, there's a certain segment, well-intentioned segment of the industry that fed into that because there was this kind of storyline that, well, we've seen these groups before.
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Kali FenclHOST
Just kind of jumping in with a quick question, from a marketing perspective, from what you all have seen in your careers, when analysts put out a report, how much of it is changed by the marketing team? Like does that impact how precise or accurate reporting is based on what they want to share? From their viewpoint, if that makes sense.