So Jen, then dive

into kind of that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So as we talk about this, this topic is really around knowing when to quit your job or when to leave your job or to leave X, Y, and Z.

So I want to take you somewhere where most career conversations don't actually go.

Okay.

See, so you're the person when I say to the listeners who are working straight through the weekend, even if you could find a day, you would be that person probably shaking your head saying, Eileen, it's not happening.