in four or five

different directions.

Super high cognitive load.

Right.

And then all of a sudden the room goes quiet.

You're like, oh, wait, they're waiting for me to say something.

What's happening right now? Right.

And so if you're using a tool like AI note taker, whether it's, you know, you're in a virtual meeting with an AI note taker, or maybe you have one of those and note taking devices with you while you're in person, you know, the AI is capturing everything that's said, but, but what does that do to the way that you are now listening as a leader? Does it change anything?

So where where did you go from here?

So I would say, let's see, I had the training facility until about 2011-ish and was coaching during that period of time.

Really shifted, was doing a lot of work with the sports psychology clients, probably 2011, 2012. even 2013.

But during that period of time, I was starting to be asked to speak for companies, for teams.

Some were sports teams, but some were colleges and universities would call me in to talk to their athletic departments and things like that.

And then I was starting to really build some momentum with speaking at different events You know, whether it was an organization's annual event or it was some sort of association or or companies who would bring me in, you know, say, hey, we're going to we're going to do something with.

you know, are in all hands meeting or something or whatever.

And like, how did that evolve?