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Jen Barker

Co-host of The Scope Podcast (equestrian sports) and owner of Leaning Oak Farm; former Clemson NCAA equestrian champion.

Jun 23, 2026

20:09
Maybe that mean
20:11
reputation is serving me well because I cannot imagine a parent interrupting one of my lessons.
20:20
In that way, have I had a parent maybe sneak in during a break where they saw an opportunity and maybe in a group lesson and bring a child to water if they'd run out or something like that, which I have no problem with.
20:32
Yeah, I do want to speak to a little bit the clip that you referenced.
20:36
And I do actually understand where he was coming from with that statement.
20:40
I hate to say it.
20:41
It can be a little annoying when they ask for water or need to stop for water very frequently, partially because it can, to me, be a little bit of a safety thing.

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39:13
Yeah.
10:28
What ones do you think, what comes to mind for you?
10:31
Certainly.
10:32
I think that's a very fair statement and it's not something that we go about willy-nilly either.
10:39
We're quite intentional about what happens what discussions should be held within an online space and what conversations would be wise to step into and what conversations would make a difference.
10:53
And most importantly, what do we feel that God is actually placing on our hearts? And there have been times over the past 20 years or so where I have felt what some would describe as being a holy anger when I've seen people mistreated within the church or seen women's voices mistreated not being appreciated and for me that comes back down to i believe that and someone said this to me once that there's no junior holy spirit that the holy spirit um works through everyone men and women and there's no um holy spirit for men and a holy spirit for women and so when i see that um situations where I think women are diminished, then I think the Holy Spirit grieves.
11:38
And so that certainly has been a space that we have tried to work within.
11:43
And we've tried to, I think for a lot of people, they haven't actually... necessarily read the Bible for themselves, we can become so reliant because we have got good teachers, but we can become so reliant on our teachers in Australia that we can tend not to read the Bible on a Monday to Saturday.
15:43
But which one, you know, is there something that stands out there that you'd like to encourage women listening?

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