What about into the Australian shipping ecosystem? What's the appetite like in Australia? Because I wanted to ask you very specifically, you're into hydrogen, obviously, but what's it like to run a deep tech in this country? But on the problem that you're trying to solve, is there the same sort of excitement that you've seen offshore as there is onshore? I

think hydrogen, for whatever reason, it's not had the same kind of community support that there is.

And I think it's just a knowledge gap.

I think we haven't really told a good story or a clear enough story in Australia about the potential for regional communities to own their own fuel production.

And I'll use an example of we're working with a port of Inverness and the many, many decades been a multi fuel hub for the northern part of the UK.

And what communities in that in northern Scotland are excited about is like we can make this molecule ourselves.

and use it ourselves.

So I'm wondering, what do you want to see from this government? The standard question I ask is what works, what doesn't work? What do you want more from government? What do you want less? What do you want them to stop doing?

Wow.

Or the, or the cryogenic liquefaction is down to 18 Kelvin, which is -255 degrees thereabout Celsius.

So it's very close to absolute zero.

And all of that means it's costly, it's hazardous, uh, and it's really inefficient.

What this does is it means that it drives the cost up of the storage transport, which is the midstream component of hydrogen.

So everyone in the hydrogen world talks about the cost of production.

And the cost of production is high, but it's actually coming down very, very quickly, where now the publicly disclosed hydrogen prices out of India are $2.75 to $3.08.

Okay.

sounds really exciting in fact it would be great to get a little bit more information about what rux does and also i mean i could say why but that sounds very uh I'm sure you have plenty of reasons why, but more importantly, maybe sort of what is the problem that you're trying to solve and how is what you do, how is it significantly different than other offerings? That would be really interesting to

learn about.

Yeah, I think we should start with one of the big problems in hydrogen is storage.

And hydrogen is like a near perfect electrofuel in the context of storage.

It's a circular molecule and that only creates water.

It's waste product.

And the efficiency of production is going to get better and better and better.

So are they not safe? Are they safe, but maybe not safe in different configurations? Can you kind of, again, help our Listeners understand that a little bit better.