But inspiring leaders to solve more difficult problems that are longer in scope, larger in impact, how do you do that?

Have you been talking to people who've been talking to me? [laughing] This is one of my favorite subjects, actually.

Um, yeah, this, I think the, the actual w- like, word and the thought that that is part of our job, inspiring people, I think is sometimes overlooked.

And, you know, we, um, you know, if I go to my, you know, as I've philosophized a bit so long.

[laughs] Mike doesn't mind it.

Um, you know, like number one in my sort of leadership philosophy or at least what I aspire to do, like it is, it is this idea of inspiring or igniting the passion because that's the necessary part.

If you wanna challenge people with the hard thing, and that's absolutely what we're gonna do, you know, we're not gonna...

After going from various special operations positions and being a platoon leader in the 25th ID and now being the commanding general, what's been the most difficult transition for you, uh, in terms of your leadership style or, uh, your knowledge base?