I mean the level of detail of accusations um about accounting errors in terms of paying somebody for not speaking which is not illegal but the accounting errors that were the accounting the accounting fraud in the end that was found in order to then indict him and and and call him a criminal this type of lawfare just like it smells very much like like authoritarian or or sectarian kind of lawfare against the other side and this is the kind of thing that i believe that we thought at least the united states was not about you fight each other with like a very very hard when it comes to to all of the political arguments but then once the fight is over you know you go you go back home and and the winner the winner takes it all um but um not really and not really anymore

Well, so this is a major historical problem we face right now.

The US is the paradigmatic case of what's called democracy.

So the US was founded at not the tail end, but very close to the tail end of the monarchical age.

The age of despots, of kings, of long systems of familial heritage in which the people did not have a voice.

And the U.S. was founded to celebrate democracy.

The people would be the government.

So in a sense, I would actually argue that democracy has been hollowed out from within and is not under attack from without.

What are you talking about and what will shock the American people once they hear it,

think about it, and absorb it? Look, I didn't come here to give a book promotion, but I've got to tell you, I've been in publishing 30 years.

I've never seen books like these, okay? This is the V-safe text fields.

This is what Americans were reporting about their own lives today.

to the CDC from January of 2021 until they shut the program down in 2023.

We've gone through four years of litigation to get these text fields.

CDC did not want to cough them up.

And they've been releasing them.

What are you talking about, and what will shock the American people once they hear it, think

about it, and absorb it? Look, I didn't come here to give a book promotion, but I've got to tell you, I've been in publishing 30 years.

I've never seen books like these, okay? This is the V-safe...

This is what Americans were reporting about their own lives to the CDC from January of 2021 until they shut the program down in 2023.

We've gone through four years of litigation to get these text fields.

CDC did not want to cough them up.

Finally, a federal judge made them and they've been made available by the ICANN, the Informed Consent Action Network.

And they've been releasing them.

Would you briefly tell us how you felt as you worked on this project? And then Bri, I'll come back to you in just a second.

Yeah, Brownstone's the last stage in a long structure of production that involved the Informed Consent Action Network, Dell Big Tree over at Highwire.

Thousands of FOIA requests, years of litigation, and then Brianne, React 19 went through and did their own audit, rearranged the...

the data so that it was done by cases rather than just purely sequentially.

Well, she sent it to me and I realized this is a document of unbelievable power.

And because there's no way you can read even two or three pages of this book.

So here's part one, right? And here's part two.

Is that Is that really the case, that people don't even have to pay money to get it?

visit peakprosperity.com and subscribe today get the reports get the alerts get me on your personal payroll get the advantage start at the beginning so it's january 2020 um when did you first become aware of covid which wasn't even called that at the time until some months later where was your head what were you thinking at the time when when you first were exposed

Well, this would have been the third week of January where the China virus was starting to be in the news.

And it concerned me because I had been writing about this problem of pandemic planning for the previous 15 years.

My first article on the topic was from 2005.

And if you go back to those days, there was a thing called the avian bird flu.

And the president was George Trump.

And he was still in a kind of PTSD trauma mode coming out of the 9-11 period.

I should point out, didn't America have, I think, the most deaths recorded of any nation?

How did you have a sense, uh, early on? What was your handwriting on the wall?

Well, because the, the t- tactics were so radical and so extreme and so, uh, deeply, I would say, like, ignorant and, and radical.

You know, the idea you're gonna ...

That we actually imagined you could shut off an economy and then turn it back on again is one of the most preposterous, um, misunderstandings of, of the nature of human society I can ever imagine.

And, and the fact that we believe that, you know, just reveals that we faced a massive intellectual crisis.

And then, uh, and just the extent to which people had, had, uh, completely, uh, ignored certain truths of virology that we had, uh, struggled for hundreds of years to learn and then just threw them all out the window just so immediately.

It's very alarming because it suggests, it suggests that humanity needed to relearn a lot of things.

[laughs]

What do you think?

Well, that's the old public health advice.

You know, b- back in, uh, '67, '68, and '57, '58, uh, The New York Times, and even from the polio epidemic from the early 1940s, The New York Times had one piece of advice for everybody: "Calm down.

If you get sick, see your doctor.

We have the proper therapeutics to deal with infectious disease.

Don't worry.

Everything's gonna be fine.

I mean, again, is he just confused or lying? Like, what do you think is going on there?

... describe it?

Yeah.

Let's, um...

Yeah.

Uh, but, um, by way of introduction, let me just say that this, the sneaky philosophy behind vaccination has always been utilitarianism.

Um, and this is the idea that it's-- we're generally going to help the population.

That doesn't mean it's costless.

Yep.

So w- what do you see as some of the solutions, just on the insurance part of what is, of course, a, a very large and complicated, uh, issue, just health overall?

I think I have an article coming out in today's Epoch Times about, about this very subject.

The, the...

Trump is giving $500 back, uh, to people who had been enrolled in the exchanges that he felt like had been ripped off, and he wants them to spend the money themselves rather than giving it to the big insurance with, uh, subsidies.

So it's kind of a, a, an earnest idea.

I, I like, uh, this idea of empowering people rather than, than, uh, uh, large companies and bureaucracies.

Uh, the problem is that there's just not a lot of options available for spending your healthcare dollars.

And, uh, you know, so w- what do you see as some of the solutions just on the insurance part of what is, of course, a, a very large and complicated, uh, issue, just health overall?

So what's the course of action, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker?

Well, what it means is that Trump is right from the beginning.

In February, he was very well-advised to say we were going to get through this naturally and normally, and we shouldn't panic.

That's not good for public health.

And he was correct to say we should have opened for Easter, right? Unfortunately, Fauci and Birx and the bureaucracy had by then taken over.

What startles me is that in private, they were saying, Gottlieb was saying, that Trump was basically correct, that Jay Bhattacharya was correct.

But Fauci and his minions had already taken control of the media.

Dr. Tucker, where do people go to get to Brownstone? Where do they go to get to your show? Where do they go to get to your social media, sir?

We're going to start with two weeks to flatten the curve, but that the powers that be inside, and it doesn't look like this information got to the president, that the powers that be between big pharma, the deep state over there with our, in our medical, you know, the medical part of the government and, and the CIA are, knew that we were about to go to herd immunity in May of 2020, sir?

Well, you summarized it pretty well.

It's a shocking document.

It's been classified for six years.

It appeared just on Friday.

I was digging through it.

I was doing something else over the weekend.

We're going to start with two weeks to flatten the curve, but that the powers that be inside, and it doesn't look like this information got to the president, that the powers that be between big pharma, the deep state over there with our, in our medical, you know, the medical part of the government and, and the CIA and, knew that we were about to go to herd immunity in May of 2020, sir?

Well, you summarized it pretty well.

It's a shocking document.

It's been classified for six years.

It appeared just on Friday.

I was digging through it.

I was doing something else over the weekend.

So what's the course of action, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker?

Well, what it means is that Trump is right from the beginning.

In February, he was very wise to say we were going to get through this naturally and normally, and we shouldn't panic.

That's not good for public health.

And he was correct to say we should have opened for Easter, right? Unfortunately, Fauci and Birx and the bureaucracy had by then taken over.

What it startles me is that in private, they were saying, Gottlieb was saying that Trump was basically correct, that Jay Bhattacharya was correct and that – but – Fauci and his minions had already taken control of the media.

The censorship had begun, and they trolled the entire country into continued lockdowns, the school closures, even canceling religious holidays, probably for political reasons, but also because they wanted to try out a new platform technology.

Dr. Tucker, where do people go to get to Brownstone? Where do they go to get to your show? Where do they go to get to your social media, sir?

Dr. Tucker.

It sounds a little technical.

It's actually ominous.

What happened was that the CIA got a briefing from Scott Gottlieb, who was the former commissioner of the FDA, who was then working for Pfizer, but he also served on some capacity with the CIA as an external advisory group.

And he briefed them sometime in early May 2020 about the situation with the pandemic.

Now, keep in mind, we've been locked down for about six weeks on Gottlieb's advice, which he advised Jared Kushner to lock down harder than he thinks he should, make it really painful for the people.

We were waiting for herd immunity.

How did both of them suppress the information to get it up to the president of the United States? Has that question been answered yet?

Now, you recently posted, quote, what else are they hiding? So what do we already know? And what might they be hiding?

Well, big questions, right? So it took me a long time to figure out why these guys were upset about the Great Barrington Declaration, which they were, right? I'm the head of NIH.

We've got to shut these people down.

This is terrible.

I couldn't understand.

It was a very normal, plain document of traditional public health wisdom.

The reason is that the document speculated, advocated, had the view that the virus would become normal, like the pandemic would become endemic, that we would obtain herd immunity through natural exposure, through exposure and immune upgrades of the immune system.

Now, you recently posted, quote, what else are they hiding? So what do we already know? And what might they be hiding? Yeah,

Can you give us an idea of what that meant?

Yeah, this is news to me.

This is one of the revelations for the diaries.

And yeah, I care about this stuff because I'm a nerd and I'm obsessed.

Actually, I was laughing with Jay Bonatario about this.

He says, how can we just keep going over this history? Do you think anybody else cares like we do? And I don't know.

We're insane people.

That's an infection level.

And this is kind of, I don't know if this is the starting point, but this is a very significant date that I wasn't aware of.

I was not aware of that either.

This is much earlier than I expected.

And he says it rather inauspiciously that he's got a manufacturer, namely Moderna.

He's got a researcher involved.

I think his name is Barney Graham, who, if you look it up, was the holder of the patent for a vaccine that would manipulate the spike in coronaviruses.

This thing was given to him, issued to him on...

Are you expecting this will be something similar in a similar vein?

Yeah,

yeah.

Thanks for seizing on that.

I have an aspirational literary career, but it's rare that I achieve it.

Maybe I worked too hard on that one.

So the point of the...

He did seek immortality through power and fame.

It's more of a logbook, isn't it?

... so-

No, thanks for, for, for seizing on that.

I have an aspirational literary, uh, career, but it's, it's rare that I, uh, achieve it.

Maybe I worked too hard on that one.

Uh, so the point [laughs] was that he did, uh, seek immortality through, through power and fame.

And, and he, he's, he's an elderly man, and he definitely, uh, thought that he was going to forge his reputation in, in, in this COVID response.

It's really clear from his, uh, mm, diaries, which are really notes towards an autobiography.

It's more of a logbook, isn't it?

Sir, make it make sense to us.

Well, inflation of this scale hardly ever makes sense, and that's one of the major problems with it.

It feels sometimes like prosperity.

Even during the Weimar Republic, people were thrilled.

They were becoming millionaires, the jobs were everywhere, and there's much to do and, and, uh, they, they felt like p- profits were, were growing great, and the stock market was soaring.

You know, people don't know this, but even in the early years of the Weimar inflation, before the currency was des- destroyed, the stock market w- uh, the German stock market was going through the roof.

And yeah, it's not as bad as that obviously [laughs] here, but we're seeing how this works.

... uh, this great analysis you've done on, on the pandemic, and y- your, all your analysis about the purchasing power of the dollar, sir.

Is that basically your theory?

Yeah.

Flatten the curve always meant prolong the pain, uh, until the, uh, till the inoculation could arrive.

That's why you couldn't stand six feet, uh, next to anybody, or closer than six feet next to anybody.

That's why you couldn't go to concerts.

That's why you couldn't go to church.

That's why they canceled the religious holidays, and that's, that's why they kept the, the kids out of the school.

Uh, I'm looking for your thoughts on this.

Sir, it make it make sense to us.

Well, inflation of this scale hardly ever makes sense, and that's one of the major problems with it.

It feels sometimes like prosperity.

Even during the Weimar Republic, people were thrilled.

They were becoming millionaires, the jobs were everywhere, and there's much to do, and it felt like profits were going great, and the stock market was soaring.

People don't know this, but even in the early years of the Weimar Republic, before the currency was destroyed, the German stock market was going through the roof.

And yeah, it's not as bad as that, obviously, here, but we're seeing how this works.

Where do we go to get all this great content? The interview you did the other day, this great analysis you've done on the pandemic and all your analysis about the purchasing power of the dollar,

Thank you, and welcome, Jeffrey.

It's a pleasure to be here, Tony, and thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to talk about something that is wildly exciting going on in New Hampshire right now.

Uh, both, uh, houses of the legislature have passed this bill, it's HB396, that would grant, uh, rights to farmers to, uh, do some limited, uh, meat processing a- along their... on their own, on their own land outside of the meat processing cartel that is dominating the industry.

This would be an enormously beneficial thing for small farmers all over New Hampshire.

I wish this law would be introduced in, in every state.

I think it sh- should be, and it will be if we can get this thing passed.

It has passed the House and the Senate, and incredibly, uh, the, the governor actually vetoed it.

Dozens of food companies removing toxic ingredients.

Right, nothing happened as a result of Bush's press conference other than sticking the camel's nose under the tent, right? Yeah, so what happened in the

case of the avian bird flu is that it never made the leap from animals to people.

I mean, you know, birds got the sniffles and that sort of thing, but that was about it.

So that came and went, but what actually happened in that period was the... founding of a new industry called Pandemic Planning.

And they came up with a new document called PanCap.

It was a central plan for managing influenza.

So I had been writing about this at the time.

I don't know.

Does it just come down to greed?

greed?Profits are part of it, no question, pharmaceutical power.

Uh, but there's the second factor that Fauci really wanted to put in play mRNA technology, because it would be the most profitable, uh, tool in history.

Uh, y- you know, it's, it's a kind of a, a technology that allows instantaneous printing more or less.

Uh, stick in this, the sequence of virus, print out the product, uh, jab, jab the potion into people, and it could be used for anything.

So he wanted that online, and he had been working on that for thirty years.

And he never had a, a way to get through the FDA, uh, which would never have ap- uh, approved this product.

Huh