Sure.

It was, they were really trying to solve real world problems.

And so anyhow, the, uh, that was the affiliation, um, you know, with the American Institute of Mathematics.

There was a plan to bring the, their math research center to Morgan Hill, um, here just south of San Jose, and bring it to the property that they, that the Fry brothers came to acquire, uh, back in the mid-'90s.

Uh, so we've got nearly 200 acres.

And, uh, and so the plan was to have a championship golf course to ...

And the Institute Golf Club, uh, and members and guests would enjoy the space, would enjoy the golf club, and would enjoy the clubhouse.

I know him very well