influential.

Still influential.

And in it, he talked about his dream orchestra, 467 members.

Wow.

That's exactly how many we have this coming for our program too.

53 of the 467 were going to be percussionists.

Oh my goodness.

And, you know, one of the reasons that I became an orchestral percussionist.

But how do you even hatch an idea? How do you even get funding for a study that says, we want to see if Devil's Tower is moving around? Did you get a phone call from Ogden Driscoll who said, hey, it's not where it used to be? Yeah,

so as you said, it's in motion.

It's not moving away.

It's not going anywhere.

But it is constantly in motion.

And that's really one of the key things.

You know, give us one of the key motivations for this study to explore this idea and just to be able to share it with people like you and people like your listeners that this is a new side to Devil's Tower.

Wind couldn't possibly affect this giant thing.