Can you talk about kind of how you, how the two of you have worked together so well over the years?

Yeah, I mean, I guess the first thing always goes to the hiring process.

I took quite a little while before I found Dr. Plemon.

I don't know how many...

I must have gone through at least five associates and, but I, you know, I told myself I just wasn't gonna be in a hurry about it, and there, there's no question of all of the other ones, for me anyway, all the other ones I interviewed, nobody would've done as good as, as well as him.

And I, and I would say, you know, I hired so much on...

He's a smart, he's a smart guy.

Yep.