But what is essentially civility, the positive case for, what are the general principles of civility that you advocate that people should live by?

Okay.

Thank you for that question.

I've kind of talked to you about an alignment of our internal posture, being able to come at the conversation with the right mental attitude.

We also want to respect each other as human beings with that dignity that I've also spoken about.

But also, I think what we the one technique that I have tried to develop is seeking the larger story.

So in this disagreement that we're having and you are passionate about your position and I'm just as passionate in order to.

How do we take the concepts and apply them today in ways that might be a little different than what people might have in their head from that Norman Rockwell painting?