Is there a moment for either of you, a, a story that captures what it has felt like for your family in 2025?

So, you know, one of the things right now for us is around Harley getting ready to go off to college.

I've always wanted one of my kids to go to Auburn, but we knew pretty quickly that it's not safe for her in this state.

Um, you know, our state leaders don't want her in this state, and they've made that abundantly clear.

So, uh, you know, lots of kids go far away for college, and, and I know that's pretty normal, but for me it was my kid didn't have a choice.

So she's moving, you know, over 10 hours away from us, and that kinda sucks.

Jeff, as a, as a father, what would you say to these worried, scared parents?

You know, I think even when Harley first came out, that was one of the statistics we kind of read early on was there was a high suicide rate, especially trans youth who didn't have supporting families.