How, how, how has that responsibility of boards and executives changed over the years for you as, as you've seen?

Yeah, I think there's been a recognition that, you know, data security is important.

Uh, will it be as important as everything else going on? No.

Like, this is an equation that is constantly being rebalanced, right, and kind of whatever the, you know, the urgent thing is of the day.

But what I have seen is that there are more rules coming from a regulatory standpoint to make sure that people are compliant with financial obligations or, you know, the obligations as, as associated with being, you know, a certain status, right? 501C3, I have to maintain [laughs] certain records, things like that.

You ...

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Um, like, what concerns you over the next four to five years most when it comes to this arena of cybersecurity in the digital world?