Yeah.

First of all, let me touch on one thing, Jonas.

Like, it, I've kinda, like...

Something just drives me a little bit crazy with, like, you, you just touched on the media expectations.

And I know Mitch Marner's agent had some comments I believe like 10 days ago saying the organization didn't protect him when he was here.

The one thing I don't understand is with, with the hype about these guys, and it was all deserved.

They were all star players, and they became superstars, and they got together.

Well, um, uh, the, and the question will be is, has there been enough change to make this feel different in terms of projecting next season? In other words, do you look at with Tkachuk's done, Hiller being here, Bob in net, Raddysh here, McKenna here, where you say, "Okay, I, I'm gonna project what they're gonna be as a clean slate," or is that even possible because Matthews and Willy and John are here, and if Rielly's still here, it's just not possible to do that? That re-

Stankoven from where he was last year to this year Taylor Hall who looks like the MVP he's playing that way in the playoffs from from what eight years ago now and Jackson Blake just in year two when you watch that line what jumps out to you

the first thing that jumps out is Taylor Hall playing it kind of a different brand of hockey I think he's always been a skill guy he's always been one of the best pure skaters in the league But just watching him in that starting the Ottawa series, like he was just physicality.

It's important.

And I think it can also be effective.

So for him to add that element and understand him being a veteran guy that he can bring something else to the table, you know, it's a key contribution.

Because if you can hurt a defenseman or finish your checks, it's going to cause turnovers.

It's going to help your team.

What was he like as a teammate for you, and why do you think he translates so well to being a head coach?

I want to do a cultural event"? Like, is it just the family aspect of it?

Well, it's a little bit of everything, um, Greg.

I've, I mean, when we start, when I started it, what I really d- [laughs] And, and no offense to the other races around the country, the historic races, but what, what really bothered me was you couldn't bring your wife or your girlfriend or your kids and have a super entertaining experience, and I wanted...

Uh, I, I'm in the wine business, uh, so I love wine.

I love good food.

Um, and, and I thought there was more to the world, uh, than just hot dogs and then, you know, some guy, you know, changing the oil, you know, right in the middle of the paddock.

Um, so we wanted kids to learn about cars.

Yeah, the era

... yeah.

He's gotta relax.

Like, just let the season play out.

He goes cra- I'm worried about that guy.

He goes nuts every day.

Mc- McKenna or Stenberg?

You know what, Biz? I think after what they've been through the last 10 years with high-end skill, Stenberg's a more well-rounded player.

Why not sniff around and think about something different?

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And [laughs] so TSN Radio, which at the time I didn't even know existed, so James Cybulski, who is such a great guy and basically got me into the business, he sent me a text and he said, "Do you mind coming in, explaining this tweet?" And I'm like, "Look, man, I don't...

Like, I don't..." It was stupid.

I literally deleted [laughs] my Twitter account.

So I went in and, and talked to him on his show.

He was doing the drive home show on TSN.

And then he messaged me, like, a couple weeks later and he's like, "Do you wanna come in a- and just kinda shoot the shit about hockey?" Um, and I was like, "Yeah, sure." So I went in again, and then when I left the second time, I just emailed the boss and I was like, "Um, I, I kind of enjoyed doing that, so if kinda anything pops up..." So then I just started doing this, like, late kinda evening night talk show with Jim Tatti, who's, like, the godfather of sports radio and television, and he taught me a lot and taught me a lot about the industry.

Oh, god