And I'm just wondering if you could just take a moment to respond to their arguments.

I think, certainly, Justice Obonso, and I think, obviously...

Sexual violence, domestic violence, intimate partner violence are a scourge, and they have rightly received greater political and social attention.

I think a lot of the solutions...

Let me step back.

Victims, witnesses, everyone caught up in a criminal prosecution are affected by delay.

In domestic cases, for example, it'll often have a splitting of the partners and then all of a sudden child care issues start to come to the fore, paying for rent come to the fore.

You should say a word or two about whether there was an error on complexity on the facts of the case here.