And I'm like, no, I'm trying to protect my own self right now.

Yeah, and sometimes you're trying to validate yourself.

Sometimes you're conflicted.

That's a good way to put it.

And anger is the best way to put it out there.

I've caught myself, and I've been learning this.

This is by no means who I am yet, but it's becoming more and more automatic that when I feel something... upset, angry, whatever.

You will speak up.

Um, Jeff, have you seen any-anything else that we haven't already covered kind of on videotapes, uh, that you think would be, uh, uh, additional discussion points on that one?

Yeah, sure.

Thanks, Ben, and thanks, Judge Johnston.

So as someone who often contests documents, uh, I agree with Judge Johnston that videos are wonderful.

Uh, but, uh, but I say that because they're almost always done incredibly poorly.

Um, now there are exceptions.

There was one I had years ago where, where the woman was quite elderly, but she was South African.

Right

Yeah.

Um, so like whatever.

But I'd always liked it.

Like my, my first, my first ever DVD, and I'll tell you what, if Vinegar Syndrome comes out with this, they should, the Mark Wahlberg Planet of the Apes was my first ever DVD.

Um [laughs] but I, but you know, like, and then I, you know, I had the special edition Lucas.

I'm 35, so I had the special edition Lucas when I was six years old, when those movies came out.

That gold box, that amazing gold box that had the three movies in it after renting them on Blockbuster, you know, my early youth.

Mm-hmm.