Can you explain a little bit to those who might not know the type of value add in this particular case, a CEO search that a search executive would bring?

First of all, experience and not having just been involved in a search firm and successful CEO searches or succession, but failures as well, because as we all know, we learn more from failures than from successes.

I would tell you there's a little bit of imbalance of power because the search firm has done this over and over and over and I've seen everything.

This newly constituted search committee is newly constituted search committee.

And so the search firm is there to be a catalyst to make sure the search committee puts forward the best possible candidate.

Not if someone would say, well, we've got three or four candidates and anyone could do the job.

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