That's my thing.

Something that you alluded to, Phyllis, which is something that I think I needed to learn early in this relationship is putting the team ahead of everything else.

Uh, you're right that things swing in the direction of one partner's needs or another at times.

Absolutely true, but I don't know that I was always that good in the past at prizing the team over my own needs and desires.

I tried to be attentive to a partner, but I always thought of us as individual entities.

I didn't think about team building and so forth so much, and we got a, I got a bit of a wake-up call early in this relationship about that.

And, uh, it proved to be a very foundational and valuable moment in terms of building the relationship that we have now.

Hm.