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Jeff Engel

Sep 27, 2026

10:59
And help us understand if we were truly isolationist in that moment or a bit more selective in how we engage worldwide.
11:06
Well, I'm really glad that you brought up the word isolationism.
11:11
And we've already mentioned it several times without defining it.
11:13
I hate to be the academic in the room who says, okay, we've got to define our terms.
11:17
But one of the difficulties with isolationism is is it has been taught to all of us.
11:23
I'm looking at everyone in this room, in your elementary school, in your high school, probably in your college class, you were taught that the United States was isolationist after World War I, and that's one of the things that led to World War II.
11:36
So don't be isolationist again.

21 MINS LATER

32:29
Is our alliances durable and resilient? Are people like our intelligence officers and military planners building that ballast to preserve them? Or is the other camp right that we are already in free fall? Jeff, I think we said you'd go first on this one.

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