She, Liz, and Jeff Dekagna all advocate for shifting the focus to what is coming rather than always looking in the rearview mirror.

Hi, I'm Jeff Takanya, Executive Advisor for Foresight First LLC.

And I'm going to take a contrarian perspective on this because I actually don't think it's about creating roles that people will be excited to step into, but rather preparing our stakeholders, preparing our contributors to participate in the roles that we need them to fulfill and be ready to undertake the responsibilities of those roles.

I believe part of the problem that we face in the association nonprofit sector is that we expect everyone to be a leader that is part of our orthodoxy.

And not everyone wants to be a leader, but they want to make a contribution.

So that's why I focus my work and my conversations With decision makers with boards and with senior decision makers and associations nonprofits on stewardship.

The need for people to think and act together and to recognize that their shared responsibility is to leave their organizations leave their systems for which they are responsible.