Mm.

Now, what we learnt from that, um, I started, um, I started a bit of research, as did Lynn, and we, um, we started creating fat-free meals.

Um, there was nothing on the market back that time under 10%, uh, 10% fat, and we were trying to hit the mark of, you know, 4% or less.

Yeah, exactly.

There's a lot of people out there doing it now.

I talk to a lot of people at markets and, you know, they're excited when they tell me the ingredients that they're doing and whether they're s- you know, in a slow cooker.

Um, you know, they let it go for a good six to eight hours, and they have this beautiful casserole of meat and vegetables and everything, and then they just pack it down in, uh, like Chinese takeaway containers and freeze it.