With that said, Jeff, can you talk a little bit about how you approached the program at Wake when you came down from Cincinnati and how you tried to address some of this?

Sure.

Yeah, that's a great question.

So, um, Here's what I faced, right? I actually retired from the Ohio system, which was great because I started drawing, but landed at Wake and they explicitly hired me to start their master's in business analytics and lead the development of the program and running the program, right? And for me, that was like ideal because I was starting with a clean slate in a business school, which is where I had been for 30 years at Cincinnati, like you said before, 20 as a department head.

And we had a very successful MS in business analytics at Cincinnati.

Before that, it was called quantitative analysis, but it was a blend of OR and stat.

So anyway, I hit Wake Forest, which is a liberal arts university, right? It's a world-class liberal arts university.

Jeff, can you share with the audience, and Mike may be hearing it for the first time, your thoughts on a kind of a new sequence of core required analytics courses for business majors?