And what convinced you that this is where you can really make the biggest difference?

Well, one of the things that I learned during the mayoral campaign is that the politics in this town is pretty dang dirty.

It is really about who's in, who's out.

How are you perceived? Are you a Democrat? Are you a Republican? Are you this? Are you that? And as somebody that is actually, I'm an independent.

I don't belong to either one of the parties.

And really, from my perspective, I don't find any of the city issues to actually be D&R issues.

They're about the issues that impact us as residents, whether it's our taxes, whether it's about the programs the city is putting into place.

So what would you maybe do or what do you think we need to see from a program like No Wrong Door before you're willing to keep funding it?