Your thoughts on this?

Yeah, I use AI all the time.

AI isn't wise, though.

It doesn't have wisdom.

But for complicated patients, I will use it.

Somebody who comes in and is on multiple medications, I will use that AI system.

I like ChatGPT.

Okay, that's the Joe we want to see, not man bun Joe, but go on.

What are we to take away from this, Dr. Barkey, at this point?

Well, Andrea, I think what you need is not a medical doctor.

You need a film critic or an Academy Award critic because it's got all the makings of a good Netflix series.

We have a mysterious illness.

We've got a laboratory.

We may or may not have a leak.

There may be bioengineered bacteria.

But if people are struggling with sleep, I think that they need to be looking into seeing deeper what's going on and why they're struggling with the sleep instead of just self-medicating.

So now he's probably angry that this was a stain on the whole vaccine project rather than anything to do about national security and bioweapons getting loose.

Well, I agree with you.

And I think he was most concerned about his own reputation and people finding out that he was in charge and he funded all these projects.

He did the same thing with the monkeys, as you pointed out earlier.

It was only through investigative journalists that we discovered what he was doing.

And I'm sure there will be more that will trickle out and will keep him in the limelight, as there should be.

I don't know.

I guess lastly, do you think we should be shutting down gain-of-function research, these types of experiments with aerosolizing, Ebola, and the like? Should it just be shut down altogether?

Nobody can find any deaths.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I mean, we've seen this happen before when there's measles outbreaks.

They try to fearmonger people into, first of all, getting vaccinated despite them wanting to without informed consent.

Then they try to denigrate the people that are choosing for legit reasons not to be vaccinated as if they're abnormal and there's something wrong with them.

I'm not sure if these deaths happened or not.

RFK, I know, is investigating.

Are they not splitting it up? Are the pharmaceutical companies not complying?

Well, what do you make of now the text messages? I assume we're going to get a whole bunch of them and this is going to be played out for many more months to come.

I'm sure this is the beginning.

Listen, we knew at the time that putting a genetic messenger RNA drug vaccine, if you will, into a pregnant person made no sense whatsoever.

Untested, minimal safety data, crazy to be putting that into a pregnant woman.

And now we know that Fauci knew that we knew that he knew that we knew that this thing simply wasn't safe.

There are studies after studies now that show this thing is dangerous.

Forget about it being dangerous for pregnant people.

They knew this thing was dangerous, and yet they still pushed it out there.

Thanks so much, Dr. Barke, for coming on.

Hey, Tony.

Thanks for having me.

It's great to be with you and the MAHA Action Group.

What an honor to be part of this group.

The speakers that are on are fantastic, many of whom, if they were in the room with me, I'd ask for their autographs, and I'd take a selfie with them.

Uh [laughs], so it's really great to be with you and have this opportunity.

So thank you for, for being one of the leaders.

But your reaction in now seeing this done by real scientists, real doctors, i- i- in a real journal of medicine.

Well, there's no surprise by this study.

We knew it all along.

The PCR test was never designed to detect infection.

What it detects is minuscule particles of the RNA virus, and then they would crank up the cycle threshold.

They would amplify the test to create positivity.

And so the problem is that you could test, uh, the side of a, of a table and get a positive result, let alone that we were actually going to treat based on a test result.

They wanted positives, didn't they, Doc?