going back our audience is definitely going to want to know you know what went into raising for you what was it like to build what was it like to then turn out uh turn around and build a venture fund so there's three buckets that we'll return to sure uh lessons probably in all of them but uh yeah jenny same question what got you into this where did it all begin for you was there a role model was it in the family was it something you learned in school was it a book was it a tv hero was it you know where did it all begin for you

Interestingly enough, Tom was mentioning your family, and it was really somewhat that for me as well.

However, I do want to add it was my grandfather who was a politician, but he was also an entrepreneur.

So he owned several companies and he was a lobbyist.

So I think it was somewhat the flavor of the environment as far as being explorative and curious, if you will.

But with that said, after grad school...

I thought, well, you know, I'm sitting in the house and I'm thinking, hmm, what am I to do? I have my children.

Is there a play here?