I think you had a thought there.

No, I mean, I've always got several.

So I also...

Just, just a bit of a color for this too, 'cause I remember, I remember like, Joe, when you came to visit like 10 plus years ago when I lived in Southern California, I remember us driving, and we're both like mathy into like sort of that, that genre.

That was sort of a lot of the stuff I did, like Chicago era, like area kind of.

I was in that math scene of Louisville, all that kind of stuff.

And then I was playing, like listening to like all these bands that it felt like were, were very re- were very formative for me and, or the bands that sort of inspired the, the bands that I think that we shared and stuff like that.

Yeah