So I just want you to go into that a little bit more with people because I don't know, you spoke about that pretty fast and I'd love them to really grab that concept because I think it's very intriguing.

Yeah, so it's, you know, we have loops in life, right? Things that are going on that are in our brain that we need to focus on that we need to have happen.

And so you have outcome loops.

Those are things that are bigger loops for us.

It's the mission, the vision, the values.

Those are things that really don't close.

There are loops that are going to be continuous.

What do you talk about?

You think it's a slowdown because you're done or it's a slowdown because you're in a period of rest? I don't

think I'm done or rest.

It's going to sound weird, but I think it's a period of peace.

So in my new book, we talk a lot about Kaiman's work, like system one and system two thinking.

I don't know if you're familiar with thinking fast and thinking slow.

I know.

Great book, right? So I think I'm finally at a place where I'm using system two a lot more instead of just system one.

And that's kind of what you're talking about.

Um, how do you define that system?

Well, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's what I've done for over 21 years.

So, you know, 21 years ago I was failing.

I had written a book called Get Out of Neutral.

You know, I thought I knew what I was doing.

I didn't know what I was doing.

It was a disaster.

Where do you think most leaders break down in that sequence, and how does your system kinda close that gap?