But we'd love to hear just your framework around it, the core philosophy around that, if you don't mind.

Oh, absolutely, for sure.

You know, I guess where I would begin is what I've scrolled to here on the screen is that, you know, we absolutely, you know, we honor and practice Nelson's golden rules, just as part of our own integration of the infinite banking concept in our family.

And we're definitely, as it relates to, you know, loan repayments, we understand and so do our children.

But don't take my word for it.

If you ever have occasion to meet my children, just ask them, what does extra interest mean when you're repaying a policy loan? And they'll tell you without skipping a heartbeat, it's more premium.

And so we put policies in place we pay the premium we um wherever possible we access uh policy loans to control how we finance the things that we need or that we want and there's a lot of high caliber opportunities that track me down personally where i've utilized policy loans to take advantage of them We never sensationalize the concept.

Is that what I'm hearing from you?